Subject: Cider Digest #2054, 30 December 2016 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:06:11 -0700 (MST) From: cider-request@talisman.com Cider Digest #2054 30 December 2016 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum Contents: RE: Cider Digest (Mark D Schichtel) Re: Aging in bulk (Dick Dunn) NOTE: Digest appears whenever there is enough material to send one. Send ONLY articles for the digest to cider@talisman.com. Use cider-request@talisman.com for subscribe/unsubscribe/admin requests. Archives of the Digest are available at www.talisman.com/cider#Archives Digest Janitor: Dick Dunn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Cider Digest From: Mark D Schichtel Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:42:37 +0000 Help experts! I have two (5) gallon batches of hard cider started in September that have decided to go rogue. They have both started growing an opaque film on the top with yellow islands. Also, large bubbles on top not common of fermentation. At first glance, this does not appear to be mold. I have 10 or so carboys of various wine/cider fermenting as well with no issues. This cider is of same juice/yeast so I'm wondering what the correlation is here. My gut tells me my addition of potassium meta prior to pitching yeast was not adequate Or this is something coming from the yeast. Email me directly mds@schichtels.com for pictures if you can help. Thanks! Mark D Schichtel Schichtel's Nursery Inc 7420 Peters Rd Springville NY 14141 716-725-2061 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Aging in bulk From: Dick Dunn Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:06:03 -0700 A small response to Marsha Lindner in CD 2052, and adding to the thoughts that Nathan Shackelford gave in 2053: If you are going to bottle for your final "packaging", regardless of when you do so you can expect the bottled cider to be somewhat "closed up" for a little while after bottling. It may take a week up to several weeks before the character opens up again. Just give it time. It's called "bottle shock" by winemakers and aficionados, and it can happen to ciders as well. It's not well understood -why- it happens, but it is observed frequently and objectively enough that it's real. - -- Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA ------------------------------ End of Cider Digest #2054 *************************